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|+ align="bottom" style="color:#e76700;" |''House Preferences''
|+ align="bottom" style="color:#e76700;" |''House Preferences''
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!
! Jayce  
! Jayce !! Raix !! Aramin !! Grazene !! [[House_Intrepid|Intrepid]] !! Prime !! Taba !! Advantage !! Bedpan Empire !! Krazybuys !! Kresht
! Raix
! Aramin
! Grazene
! Intrepid
! Prime
! Taba
! Advantage
! Bedpan Empire
! Krazybuys
|-
|-
! vimes
! vimes
| 0
| 0 || 3 || 5 || 0 || 0 || 4 || 0 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0
| 3
| 5
| 0
| 0
| 4
| 0
| 2
| 1
| 0
|-
|-
! Jota
! Jota
| 0
| 0 || 0 || 5 || 1 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 4 || 2 || 0  || 0
| 0
| 5
| 1
| 0
| 3
| 0
| 4
| 2
| 0
|-  
|-  
! maga
! maga
| 0
| 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 3 || 2 || 5 || 4 || 0  || 0
| 0
| 1
| 0
| 0
| 3
| 2
| 5
| 4
| 0
|-
|-
! Jon
! Jon
| 0
| 0 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 5 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0
| 0
| 3
| 0
| 5
| 0
| 0
| 0
| 0
| 0
|-
|-
! Lucian
! Lucian
| 4
| 4 || 1 || 4 || 0 || 5 || 3 || 0 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 0
| 1
| 4
| 0
| 5
| 3
| 0
| 2
| 0
| 0
|-
|-
! Ghogg
! Ghogg
| 0
| 0 || 1 || 2 || 3 || 0 || 5 || 0 || 4 || 0 || 0 || 0
| 1
| 2
| 3
| 0
| 5
| 0
| 4
| 0
| 0
|-
|-
! Roger
! Roger
| 1
| 1 || 2 || 0 || 2 || 4 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0
| 2
| 0
| 2
| 4
| 1
| 1
| 1
| 0
| 0
|-
|-
!Baf
!Baf
| 0
| 0 || 5 || 0 || 4 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 2 || 0 || 3 || 0
| 5
|-
| 0
! Iain
| 4
| 3 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 4 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 2 || 5 || 0
| 0
|-
| 0
! Fang
| 0
| 5 || 4 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 1 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0
| 2
|-
| 0
! Matthew
| 3
| 3 || 4 || 3 || 3 || 4 || 5 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 5
|-
! katre
| 4 || 0 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 0 || 4 || 4 || 0 || 0 || 3
|-
! duchess
| 0 || 4 || 3 || 2 || 1 || 1 || 5 || 0 || 4 || 0 || 4
|-
! Total
| 20 || 24 || 26 || 21 || 23 || 27 || 16 || 25 || 13 || 8 || 12
|-
! Total of ^2
| 76 || 88 || 98 || 61 || 99 || 97 || 54 || 87 || 41 || 34 || 50
|-
! # of 4s/5s
| 3 || 4 || 3 || 1 || 5 || 3 || 2 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 2
|}
|}
== House Membership Based On Voting (Old Proposals) ==
As set by me [inky] but feel free to change it.
'''Aramin''' (research & tech): Jota, vimes
'''Intrepid''' (military & exploration): Roger, Iain, lpsmith, (Jon)
'''Prime''' (politics & research): Ghogg, Matthew, maga
'''Raix''' (politics & trade): Baf, Fang
Lucian's proposal:
Number of players who have at least a 4-5 chosen if we include (in order):<br>
Intrepid:  5 (Jon, Lucian, Roger, Iain, Matthew)<br>
Intrepid + Aramin:  7 (+vimes, Jota)<br>
Intrepid + Aramin + Advantage:  9 (+maga, Ghogg)<br>
Intrepid + Aramin + Advantage + Raix:  11 (+baf, Fang)<br>
A similar list (by Jota, based on Lucian's) that also tries to maximize how many folks are in a house they called 4/5:
'''Intrepid''': Jon, Roger, Iain<br>
'''Aramin''': vimes, Jota, Lucian<br>
'''Advantage''': maga, Ghogg<br>
'''Raix''': baf, Fang, Matthew<br>
== House Membership Based On Voting (Current Proposals) ==
Another list by Jota, including katre and Duchess:
'''Intrepid''' (military & exploration; bad trade): Jon, Roger, Iain<br>
'''Aramin''' (industry & research; bad diplomacy): vimes, Jota, Lucian<br>
'''Prime''' (diplomacy & research; bad industry): Ghogg, Matthew<br>
'''Advantage''' (exploration & research; bad military): maga, katre<br>
'''Raix''' (diplomacy & trade; bad military): baf, Fang, Duchess<br>
Ghogg proposal based off inky's but adding katre and Duchess:
'''Aramin''' (research & tech, bad diplomacy): Jota, vimes, Duchess<br>
'''Intrepid''' (military & exploration, bad trade): Roger, Iain, lpsmith, (Jon)<br>
'''Advantage''' (exploration & research, bad military): Ghogg, maga, katre<br>
'''Raix''' (politics & trade, bad military): Baf, Fang, Matthew<br>
I am fine with either.-duchess
Maga proposal-would-be-too-strong-a-word, based on a Jota-like model but shuffled around a bit:<br>
'''Jayce''' (diplomacy & exploration; bad military): Fang, Lucian, katre<br>
'''Intrepid''' (military & exploration; bad trade): Jon, Roger, Iain<br>
'''Aramin''' (industry & research; bad diplomacy): vimes, Jota<br>
'''Advantage''' (exploration & research; bad military): maga, Ghogg<br>
'''Raix''' (diplomacy & trade; bad military): baf, Matthew, Duchess<br>


== House attributes ==
== House attributes ==
All skills and aspects on this page are even more works-in-progress than usual, of course.
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|+ align="bottom" style="color:#e76700;" |''House Mechanics''
|+ align="bottom" style="color:#e76700;" |''House Skills''
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! !! Diplomacy !! Industry !! Trade !! Military !! Exploration !! Research !! Aspect 1 !! Aspect 2
! Diplomacy
! Industry
! Trade
! Military
! Exploration
! Research
| Aspect 1
| Aspect 2
|-
|-
! Jayce  
! Jayce  
| 2
| 2 || 0 || 0 || -2 || 2 || 0 || ||
| 0
| 0
| -2
| 2
| 0
|-
|-
! Raix
! Raix
| 2
| 2 || 0 || 2 || -2 || 0 || 0 || ||
| 0
| 2
| -2
| 0
| 0
|-
|-
! Aramin
! Aramin
| 0
| -2 || 2 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 2 || ||
| 2
| 0
| -2
| 0
| 2
|-
|-
! Grazene
! Grazene
| -2
| -2 || 0 || 2 || 0 || 2 || 0 || ||
| 0
| 2
| 0
| 2
| 0
|-
|-
! Intrepid
! Intrepid
| 0
| 0 || 0 || -2 || 2 || 2 || 0 || ||
| 0
| -2
| 2
| 2
| 0
|-
|-
! Prime
! Prime
| 2
| 2 || -2 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 2 || ||
| -2
| 0
| 0
| 0
| 2
|-
|-
! Taba
! Taba
| 2
| 2 || -2 || 0 || 0 || 2 || 0 || ||
| -2
| 0
| 0
| 2
| 0
|-
|-
! Advantage
! Advantage
| 0
| 0 || 0 || 0 || -2 || 2 || 2 || ||
| 0
| 2
| -2
| 0
| 2
|-
|-
! Bedpan Empire
! Bedpan Empire
| 2
| 2 || 0 || 0 || 2 || 0 || -2 || ||
| 0
| 0
| 2
| 0
| -2
|-
|-
! Krazybuys
! Krazybuys
| 0
| 0 || 2 || 2 || -2 || 0 || 0 || ||
| 2
|-
| 2
! Kresht
| -2
| 0 || 2 || 0 || 2 || -2 || 0 || ||
| 0
| 0
|-
|-
|}
|}
Fang:
I'd suggest Raix goes to +Trade/Politics -Research, instead. Since there's lots of -militaries already, and it seems more realistic to an aging, stagnating house to have a proud military tradition and a few mothballed battleships as 'family heirlooms', but be disapproving of innovation. It might even be a +military.

Latest revision as of 14:26, 10 May 2011

Vaguely interested so far: Raix, Aramin, Prime, Taba, Advantage, Bedpan. Maga 18:10, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

Present leanings, in descending order: Aramin, Advantage, Prime, Bedpan, Grazene Jota 18:16, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

My interests: Aramin, Prime, Raix, Advantage, Bedpan, in roughly that order. Vimes 19:57, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

interests: Intrepid and Aramin, in that order. --Jon 21:29, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

I'm interested in playing the Jarou allies of one of the houses. Also, I've redone the table as if everyone rated each House on a scale of 0-5, with 5 being the highest interest. Lpsmith 23:41, 3 May 2011 (PDT)

House preferences

House Preferences
Jayce Raix Aramin Grazene Intrepid Prime Taba Advantage Bedpan Empire Krazybuys Kresht
vimes 0 3 5 0 0 4 0 2 1 0 0
Jota 0 0 5 1 0 3 0 4 2 0 0
maga 0 0 1 0 0 3 2 5 4 0 0
Jon 0 0 3 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0
Lucian 4 1 4 0 5 3 0 2 0 0 0
Ghogg 0 1 2 3 0 5 0 4 0 0 0
Roger 1 2 0 2 4 1 1 1 0 0 0
Baf 0 5 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 3 0
Iain 3 0 0 0 4 1 0 0 2 5 0
Fang 5 4 0 3 0 1 2 0 0 0 0
Matthew 3 4 3 3 4 5 2 1 0 0 5
katre 4 0 0 3 0 0 4 4 0 0 3
duchess 0 4 3 2 1 1 5 0 4 0 4
Total 20 24 26 21 23 27 16 25 13 8 12
Total of ^2 76 88 98 61 99 97 54 87 41 34 50
# of 4s/5s 3 4 3 1 5 3 2 4 2 1 2

House Membership Based On Voting (Old Proposals)

As set by me [inky] but feel free to change it.

Aramin (research & tech): Jota, vimes

Intrepid (military & exploration): Roger, Iain, lpsmith, (Jon)

Prime (politics & research): Ghogg, Matthew, maga

Raix (politics & trade): Baf, Fang


Lucian's proposal:

Number of players who have at least a 4-5 chosen if we include (in order):
Intrepid: 5 (Jon, Lucian, Roger, Iain, Matthew)
Intrepid + Aramin: 7 (+vimes, Jota)
Intrepid + Aramin + Advantage: 9 (+maga, Ghogg)
Intrepid + Aramin + Advantage + Raix: 11 (+baf, Fang)


A similar list (by Jota, based on Lucian's) that also tries to maximize how many folks are in a house they called 4/5:

Intrepid: Jon, Roger, Iain
Aramin: vimes, Jota, Lucian
Advantage: maga, Ghogg
Raix: baf, Fang, Matthew

House Membership Based On Voting (Current Proposals)

Another list by Jota, including katre and Duchess:

Intrepid (military & exploration; bad trade): Jon, Roger, Iain
Aramin (industry & research; bad diplomacy): vimes, Jota, Lucian
Prime (diplomacy & research; bad industry): Ghogg, Matthew
Advantage (exploration & research; bad military): maga, katre
Raix (diplomacy & trade; bad military): baf, Fang, Duchess


Ghogg proposal based off inky's but adding katre and Duchess:

Aramin (research & tech, bad diplomacy): Jota, vimes, Duchess
Intrepid (military & exploration, bad trade): Roger, Iain, lpsmith, (Jon)
Advantage (exploration & research, bad military): Ghogg, maga, katre
Raix (politics & trade, bad military): Baf, Fang, Matthew

I am fine with either.-duchess

Maga proposal-would-be-too-strong-a-word, based on a Jota-like model but shuffled around a bit:
Jayce (diplomacy & exploration; bad military): Fang, Lucian, katre
Intrepid (military & exploration; bad trade): Jon, Roger, Iain
Aramin (industry & research; bad diplomacy): vimes, Jota
Advantage (exploration & research; bad military): maga, Ghogg
Raix (diplomacy & trade; bad military): baf, Matthew, Duchess

House attributes

All skills and aspects on this page are even more works-in-progress than usual, of course.

House Skills
Diplomacy Industry Trade Military Exploration Research Aspect 1 Aspect 2
Jayce 2 0 0 -2 2 0
Raix 2 0 2 -2 0 0
Aramin -2 2 0 0 0 2
Grazene -2 0 2 0 2 0
Intrepid 0 0 -2 2 2 0
Prime 2 -2 0 0 0 2
Taba 2 -2 0 0 2 0
Advantage 0 0 0 -2 2 2
Bedpan Empire 2 0 0 2 0 -2
Krazybuys 0 2 2 -2 0 0
Kresht 0 2 0 2 -2 0

Fang:

I'd suggest Raix goes to +Trade/Politics -Research, instead. Since there's lots of -militaries already, and it seems more realistic to an aging, stagnating house to have a proud military tradition and a few mothballed battleships as 'family heirlooms', but be disapproving of innovation. It might even be a +military.

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