Nomic 2020/Proposals

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Pending Proposals

• Rule Amendment Knight Movement Adjustment
  • Modify 16.2 after "If after any player action" to add "that moves a piece on or adds a piece to the board"
  • Inky (talk) 00:31, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: inky
  • Nay:
  • Abstain: lpsmith (I kind of like the super-powered nature of the black knight, but I'd be OK with it being reduced.), Jota (agree with lps), Matthew

• Rule Constellations
  • Add another section to rule 12: At any time, a player who has three gold stars assigned to them may, as an action, assign the stars to the Cosmic Void and take a card of their choice from the Deck.
  • Inky (talk) 00:31, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: inky, lpsmith, Jota
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Rule Pay for Play
  • Add another section to rule 14: Players may take additional board actions in a day beyond the free amount by reducing their score (if the reduction would not put their score below zero). The required amount is 1 point for the first additional action, 2 points for the second, 3 points for the third, and so on.
  • Inky (talk) 00:31, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: inky, lpsmith, Jota
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Astronomer
  • Special effect: If this card is possessed by a player or a piece owned by a player when this effect occurs, that player may re-assign any two gold stars of their choice. If this card is possessed by the Cosmic Void or a piece owned by the Cosmic Void when the effect occursOtherwise, one random player (selected from those with at least one gold star) has one gold star re-assigned to the Cosmic Void.
  • Inky (talk) 00:31, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: inky, lpsmith, Jota
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Equivomancer
  • Special effect: The player who caused this effect to occur may choose between two options: reduce the score of any contestant by up to 10 points, and reduce their own score by twice that amount; or increase the score of any player by up to 20 points and reduce their own score by the same amount. The player may choose a value of zero but not a negative value, and may not choose a value that reduces any score involved below zero.
  • Inky (talk) 00:31, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • Edited at Inky (talk) 15:36, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: inky
  • ABSTAIN:

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Return to Sender
  • Special effect: All cards are returned to the deck. Any owner of a card so returned has their score increased by the face value of the card.
  • Lpsmith (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: lpsmith, Jota, inky
  • NAY:
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Shelter in Place
  • Special effect: Any player who caused this effect to occur is given ownership of this card, and it is not returned to the deck. The player may at any time return this card to the deck after a different Monkey Arcana card was activated, but before its special effect takes place. This cancels the effect of that other card, sending it to the deck in lieu of its special effect taking place.
  • Lpsmith (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: lpsmith, inky
  • NAY: Jota (Edited! This might require a definition of 'activated'.-LS) (I'm comfortable with assuming that, in absence of any other meaning of "activated" in the game, it's reasonable to interpret it as when the card's special effect takes place -J)
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Rule Melds
  • Addition to Rule 0:
    • A Meld is a set of three cards that either all have the same suit or have different, consecutive numbers (in any suit).
  • New Rule: Redemption
    • If a player has a meld, that player redeem it at any time as an action. Th[is] adds fifteen to the player's score and returns those cards to the Deck.
    • If a non-player has a meld, any player can redeem it at any time as an action. If the owner of the cards is able to have a score, this adds fifteen to its score. If there are any gold stars assigned to the Cosmic Void, this assigns one of those stars to the player. It also returns those cards to the deck.
    • [Edited to fix a typo]
  • Jota (talk) 06:57, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota, inky (though I'm not sure this is usually a good deal score-wise, assuming cards = their face value), lpsmith (You can get points for cards when capturing, but no other time...at least right now.)
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Meteor Shower
  • Special effect: If there are at least as many players in the game as there are gold stars assigned to the Cosmic Void, one gold star is assigned to each player. Then (regardless of whether or not the first clause took place), if there are [at least] as many pieces in the game as there are stars assigned to the Cosmic Void, one gold star is assigned to each piece.
  • Jota (talk) 11:28, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota, inky (should the second sentence say "at least as many"?) [Edited to fix, as per the typo protocol -J], lpsmith

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Cat
  • If there are any pieces on the board, one of them is chosen at random. That piece is now no longer on the board.
  • Jota (talk) 11:28, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota, inky, lpsmith (I like the whimsy of this one.)

• Monkey Arcana Proposal Charm Person
  • The player who caused this card to take effect must choose a player in the game and a proposal that that player has not voted in favor of. (If there is no such combination of player and proposal, this card has no effect.) If that player votes in favor of the proposal and the proposal passes with that vote in place, that player receives twenty-five points. (This only applies to players and proposals that existed before the event that triggered this card was decided on.)
  • Jota (talk) 11:28, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota, inky
  • QUESTION: Can this include rejected proposals that are re-introduced? Or do they have to be current? -LS

Approved Proposals

• Monkey Arcana Proposal. Tax Collector
  • Special effect: The score of every piece that has a score of 10 or greater is reduced by 10. Any piece that has a score which is less than 10 has its score set to 0.
  • Jota (talk) 09:09, 8 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota, lpsmith, inky
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Rule Proposal. Capturing adjustment
  • Playing a bit on the board has revealed that the Knight quickly amasses a huge number of cards; enough so that a piece capturing it is likely to outright win the game and cause the players to lose. This is an attempt to mitigate that.
  • Remove 0.8.2 and 0.8.4, and add the following instead:
    • The owner of the capturing piece (if any) divides the cards into two groups: one group becomes points or (if a Monkey Arcana suit) actions, and the other group remains cards. The owner awards one group to themselves, and the other group to the capturing piece itself. (I.e. they can give themselves the points and the piece the cards, or visa versa.) If there is no owner, the Cosmic Void is considered the owner for the purposes of this distribution. All non-player owners always act completely randomly. Cards owned by the Cosmic void are considered both owned by and assigned to the Cosmic Void.
  • Lpsmith (talk) 14:59, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
  • Yea: lpsmith, inky (this might benefit from a definition for 'playing a card')
  • NAY:
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Rule Proposal. Useful Tags
• Rule Proposal. Days
• Rule Proposal. More Aggressive Knights
• Rule Proposal. Gotcha!
• Rule Proposal. Cards and Captures
• Rule Proposal. Not an Orphan
• Rule Proposal. Naughty Knights (v2)
• Rule Proposal. What's an entity?
• Proposal. Scoring
• Proposal. Longevity Scoring
• Proposal. Amendment to Rule 2: Assigning Blame.
• Proposal. Amendment to Rule 2: Assigning time.
• Proposal. Amendment to Rule 1: "If at any point during the voting period, the player who originally posted a proposal votes to reject it, any player may resolve the proposal by editing the proposal page to indicate * Proposal. Amendment to Rule 6
• Rule Proposal. Friendly Typo Handling
• Rule Proposal. Pawns
• Rule Proposal. Amendment/addition to Rule 9: Pawn Promotion.
• Rule Proposal. Format rule sub-lists as numbers:
• Rule Proposal. Amendment to Rule 9[.4.2]
• Rule Proposal. Alternative adjustment to Rule 6.1:
• Rule Proposal. Win Conditions v2
• Rule Proposal NPC Victories
• Rule Revision Proposal The 'wait, what?' addendum
• Rule Proposal. The Deck
• Rule Proposal. More definitions
• Rule Proposal. Passivity == FAIL
• Rule Proposal. Stellar Cartography
• Rule adjustment proposal. Keep win conditions together
• Rule Proposal. Rule Renumbering (Addition to Rule 2)
• Rule Proposal. The board (v2)
• Rule Proposal. Pawn Promotion Addendum
• Rule Proposal. Randomness
• Rule 9. Rule 9 Cleanup to rewrite Rule 9 as the following (and fix any other rule numbers/references to it in the Rules or Proposals)

Rejected Proposals

• Monkey Arcana Proposal. Philanthroposit
  • Special effect: Every player's score increases by 10.
  • Jota (talk) 09:09, 8 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota
  • NAY: lpsmith (I think I'd prefer an 'any entity with at least one point is awarded 10 more points.'), inky (with my tags proposal I suggest making this 'every owner' or 'every competitor', although the latter would be kind of wild)
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Monkey Arcana Proposal. Housekeeper
  • Special effect: The player who caused this special effect to occur must, as an action, either A) select up to five cards possessed by players or pieces and return them to the deck (so they are no longer possessed by anyone), or B) indicate that they don't wish to do this at this time.
  • Jota (talk) 09:09, 8 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota
  • NAY: lpsmith (I don't like the 'B' option.), inky (B is subsumed by A anyway, but I think this needs to handle the case where it's not played by a player, doesn't it? Like if the black knight captures someone?)
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Monkey Arcana Proposal. Bartender
  • Special effect: The player who caused this special effect to occur must, as an action, draw as many random cards from the Deck as there are players in the game. That player then gives one of these cards to each player (their choice), removing them from the Deck.
  • Jota (talk) 09:09, 8 May 2020 (EDT)
  • YEA: Jota
  • NAY: lpsmith (maybe s/player/entity with at least one card/ ?), inky (as above, should handle the case where a player doesn't cause it?)
  • ABSTAIN: Matthew

• Rule Proposal. All-Consuming Void (v2)
• Rule Proposal. All-Consuming Void
• Rule Proposal. Cards and Captures
• Proposal. Amendment to Rule 3: Removal of inactive players.
• Rule Proposal. Proposal Points
• Rule Proposal. Change to Rule 7.
• Rule Proposal. Change to Rule 7.
• Rule Proposal. Adjustment to Rule 6.1:
• Rule Proposal. Win Conditions
• Rule Proposal. Amendability
• Rule Proposal. Amended Amendability
• Rule Proposal. Additionally Amended Amendability
• Rule Proposal. 1.2: Proposal Amendments.
• Rule Proposal. Change to Proposal Resolution
• Rule Proposal. Fae Magic
• Rule Proposal. Card and Queen Win Conditions
• Rule Proposal. Pick a Card, Any Card